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		<title>By: Mike Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.bullartistry.com.au/wp/2009/08/05/the-end-of-shadows/comment-page-1/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Fred

Don&#039;t know about allegorising. It&#039;s more about recognising repeated event-patterns. The New Testament writers do this constantly, and quote the Old Testament accordingly, hence the reference in Hebrews to the wilderness. These symbols are not up-for-grabs in any way.

I suggest reading Jordan&#039;s article on the Abomination of Desolation. By its very definition (a sacrilege that brings desecration), this sin was not something that could be committed by Gentiles. The destruction of the Temple, like the destruction of the Garden of Eden, was the last straw in judgment against God&#039;s priests.
The Roman standard, like the deeds of Antiochus, was a desolation, not a sacrilege. Like him, they were the instrument of God against an apostate priesthood. When the glory departs, the house is left open to attack, and the end comes with a flood (Dan 9:26).

Thanks for your comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fred</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know about allegorising. It&#8217;s more about recognising repeated event-patterns. The New Testament writers do this constantly, and quote the Old Testament accordingly, hence the reference in Hebrews to the wilderness. These symbols are not up-for-grabs in any way.</p>
<p>I suggest reading Jordan&#8217;s article on the Abomination of Desolation. By its very definition (a sacrilege that brings desecration), this sin was not something that could be committed by Gentiles. The destruction of the Temple, like the destruction of the Garden of Eden, was the last straw in judgment against God&#8217;s priests.<br />
The Roman standard, like the deeds of Antiochus, was a desolation, not a sacrilege. Like him, they were the instrument of God against an apostate priesthood. When the glory departs, the house is left open to attack, and the end comes with a flood (Dan 9:26).</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand why you are all allegorizing Scripture when there is no need to do so?  Christ Himself referred to the Abomination of Desolation as something that is a throwback to the book of Daniel.

Surely you folks have heard of the atrocities of Antiochus Epiphanes, who, in 168 B.C., walked into the Holy of Holies, and slaughtered a pig on the altar?  He then sprinkled the pig&#039;s blood around.  Then, as if that was not enough, he set up a statue of Zeus, and some historians report that he placed a mask over Zeus&#039; face, that looked like his own face.

It appears that Jesus was saying that this type of event will occur again.  As I look through history since 168 B.C., I do not see any incident that even comes close to mirroring Antiochus&#039; stunt.

Then again, I also note that this is a Preterist site, which explains why the allegorizing.  Sorry, not trying to be rude.  I just put two and two together.

You folks should give Arnold Fruchtenbaum a shot.  He has some wonderful material out there on this entire subject.  He is a Jewish believer and understands the Bible from a Jewish perspective.  Gee, what a concept...:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why you are all allegorizing Scripture when there is no need to do so?  Christ Himself referred to the Abomination of Desolation as something that is a throwback to the book of Daniel.</p>
<p>Surely you folks have heard of the atrocities of Antiochus Epiphanes, who, in 168 B.C., walked into the Holy of Holies, and slaughtered a pig on the altar?  He then sprinkled the pig&#8217;s blood around.  Then, as if that was not enough, he set up a statue of Zeus, and some historians report that he placed a mask over Zeus&#8217; face, that looked like his own face.</p>
<p>It appears that Jesus was saying that this type of event will occur again.  As I look through history since 168 B.C., I do not see any incident that even comes close to mirroring Antiochus&#8217; stunt.</p>
<p>Then again, I also note that this is a Preterist site, which explains why the allegorizing.  Sorry, not trying to be rude.  I just put two and two together.</p>
<p>You folks should give Arnold Fruchtenbaum a shot.  He has some wonderful material out there on this entire subject.  He is a Jewish believer and understands the Bible from a Jewish perspective.  Gee, what a concept&#8230;:)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.bullartistry.com.au/wp/2009/08/05/the-end-of-shadows/comment-page-1/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kelby

In Jordan&#039;s article, he writes:

&quot;The whole of Old Testament theology points us to this. The “wing of
abominations” goes back to Numbers 15:37-41, where every Israelite was commanded to wear a blue tassel, called a wing, on his garments. (“Corner” is literally “wing.”) This was the “wing of holiness,” to remind Israel to obey the law (v. 40). Every Israelite was a member of a heavenly people, and “flew” about the throne of God on these blue (heavenly) “wings.” Naturally, an apostate Israelite would no longer have “wings of holiness” but “wings of abominations.” Their leader, the High Priest, would be the preeminent example of this.&quot;

It&#039;s also on pages 743-753 of Totus Christus in the appendices.

Jesus evidently knew He would forgive and postpone the destruction. So He refers to the massacre of the saints, not His own death.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelby</p>
<p>In Jordan&#8217;s article, he writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;The whole of Old Testament theology points us to this. The “wing of<br />
abominations” goes back to Numbers 15:37-41, where every Israelite was commanded to wear a blue tassel, called a wing, on his garments. (“Corner” is literally “wing.”) This was the “wing of holiness,” to remind Israel to obey the law (v. 40). Every Israelite was a member of a heavenly people, and “flew” about the throne of God on these blue (heavenly) “wings.” Naturally, an apostate Israelite would no longer have “wings of holiness” but “wings of abominations.” Their leader, the High Priest, would be the preeminent example of this.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also on pages 743-753 of Totus Christus in the appendices.</p>
<p>Jesus evidently knew He would forgive and postpone the destruction. So He refers to the massacre of the saints, not His own death.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelby Carlson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelby Carlson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great stuff, mike. Though there is one thing i&#039;m curious about. When reading out of the NIV, it says that &quot;on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation.&quot; Now if we&#039;re speaking of the Crucifixion as the abomination, what does the wing of the temple mean?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff, mike. Though there is one thing i&#8217;m curious about. When reading out of the NIV, it says that &#8220;on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation.&#8221; Now if we&#8217;re speaking of the Crucifixion as the abomination, what does the wing of the temple mean?</p>
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