Comments on: Viva La Reformacion

By: Steven Opp

Steven Opp — Sun, 16 May 2010 19:09:30 +0000

The sermon is called “Forgiveness.” I don’t know where you could find it, I have it on tape. I actually have an extra copy if you’d like me to send you one. He just mentions Fight Club real quick when explaining debt. It’s a great sermon, though.

By: Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Sat, 15 May 2010 21:55:27 +0000

Hi Steven

Well, I guess the apostles did “turn the world upside down.” But it wasn’t overnight and it wasn’t by coercion or violence but by sacrifice.
And there is the factor that Jesus, as the last great prophet, was calling Jerusalem back to the Word of God to avoid the Covenant curses.

Also, as Jordan points out somewhere, the violence is more the case of God’s enemies losing trust in each other (ie. beast and harlot) and wiping each other out (a la Lock, Stock type movies) because God’s people simply continued to persevere in worship.

I do take your point. There are some similarities. But it’s more the process of yeast that brings about the transformation – even AD70. That was the bursting of the old wine skin.

Great to hear from you again. And what is Rich’s sermon called?

By: Steven Opp

Steven Opp — Sat, 15 May 2010 19:24:26 +0000

Would it be the case that Jesus was a reformer and a revolutionary? He was a reformer when he walked the earth, saying he did not come to destroy it but to save it. Then he was a revolutionary in AD 70 through his human pawns who destroyed the temple. He wore suit and tie to all the parties he attended on the earth and even at his crucifixion. In AD 70 he rolled up his sleeves and did the dirty work. (Mike, I just listened to an old sermon by Rich Bledsoe. In it he compares the plot of the revolutionaries in Fight Club with AD 70. Looks like you both had the same perspective on that movie-I read “Tyler rules the world”.)