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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bullartistry.com.au/wp/2010/05/29/the-wrath-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-3269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caveat: or perhaps God was fishing for an answer, testing his prophetic subject in order to see how he would respond to such utter destruction of his covenant people.  But if Moses had not chosen to speak up, then would the fire and brimstone have been unleashed?  I think so.  

An inner-exegetical parallel to Exodus 32: If Samuel would have interceded on Saul&#039;s behalf - a king that was well within the monarchic stipulations in Deut. 17, unlike David and Solomon (the latter breaking every single stipulation, other than his being, ironically, &quot;not a foreigner&quot;) - then perhaps God would have changed his mind about erasing the Saulide line, as he changed his mind here in Ex. 32 (see 1 Sam. 15).

Ergo, perhaps your claim is an accurate one.  Please excuse my thinking out-loud - HA!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caveat: or perhaps God was fishing for an answer, testing his prophetic subject in order to see how he would respond to such utter destruction of his covenant people.  But if Moses had not chosen to speak up, then would the fire and brimstone have been unleashed?  I think so.  </p>
<p>An inner-exegetical parallel to Exodus 32: If Samuel would have interceded on Saul&#8217;s behalf &#8211; a king that was well within the monarchic stipulations in Deut. 17, unlike David and Solomon (the latter breaking every single stipulation, other than his being, ironically, &#8220;not a foreigner&#8221;) &#8211; then perhaps God would have changed his mind about erasing the Saulide line, as he changed his mind here in Ex. 32 (see 1 Sam. 15).</p>
<p>Ergo, perhaps your claim is an accurate one.  Please excuse my thinking out-loud &#8211; HA!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The prophet did not have to remind God, so much as he had to remind himself of the love of God, and to see God’s judgment as the wrath of love.&quot;

What about the dangerous yet successful Mosaic paradigm in Exodus 32:7-14?  In this section, the prophet is able to approach, contest and sway God&#039;s wrath (vv. 11-13).  In response to Moses&#039; challenge, the text tells us, &quot;and the Lord changed his mind about the disaster that he planned to bring on his people&quot; (v. 14)...

... And what was the cornerstone of his defense? -- the appeal to memory (v. 13).  Moses cites the exodus event, and he further appeals to the covenant established with Abraham.

Exegetically said, human agents when in-line with the memory of Scripture are empowered to approach and challenge the memory of God himself. -- Indeed, there may have been another deluge if it weren&#039;t for Moses&#039; agency, and God may have lamented as he did so poignantly in Genesis 6:6.

It might sound crazy that God needs, or relies, on humans in order to bring about his purposes for the cosmic renewal or eschaton, but a close exegesis of Exodus 32 supports it; furthermore, the overall canonical sweep of Scripture supports such a daring mutual interdependency of God/heaven and humans/earth, founded by Gen. 1:26-28, and supported in Gen. 5:1, Gen 9:6.

Therefore, I am not quite on-board with your above claim, as the relationship between humankind and God, as depicted in the biblical account, is more complex and nuanced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The prophet did not have to remind God, so much as he had to remind himself of the love of God, and to see God’s judgment as the wrath of love.&#8221;</p>
<p>What about the dangerous yet successful Mosaic paradigm in Exodus 32:7-14?  In this section, the prophet is able to approach, contest and sway God&#8217;s wrath (vv. 11-13).  In response to Moses&#8217; challenge, the text tells us, &#8220;and the Lord changed his mind about the disaster that he planned to bring on his people&#8221; (v. 14)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; And what was the cornerstone of his defense? &#8212; the appeal to memory (v. 13).  Moses cites the exodus event, and he further appeals to the covenant established with Abraham.</p>
<p>Exegetically said, human agents when in-line with the memory of Scripture are empowered to approach and challenge the memory of God himself. &#8212; Indeed, there may have been another deluge if it weren&#8217;t for Moses&#8217; agency, and God may have lamented as he did so poignantly in Genesis 6:6.</p>
<p>It might sound crazy that God needs, or relies, on humans in order to bring about his purposes for the cosmic renewal or eschaton, but a close exegesis of Exodus 32 supports it; furthermore, the overall canonical sweep of Scripture supports such a daring mutual interdependency of God/heaven and humans/earth, founded by Gen. 1:26-28, and supported in Gen. 5:1, Gen 9:6.</p>
<p>Therefore, I am not quite on-board with your above claim, as the relationship between humankind and God, as depicted in the biblical account, is more complex and nuanced.</p>
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