Comments on: Educating Jesus

By: Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Mon, 20 May 2013 23:15:57 +0000

Good point. Seems God isn’t as concerned with identity so much as with roles, which makes Him Trinitarian.

The “I Am” is the “source” of Covenant authority. To the Son, the Father is the I Am. To the Covenant people, Jesus is the I Am, as He Himself says. Psalm 110 puts the Father at Transcendence and the Son at Hierarchy. But the Son is still transcendent.

http://www.bullartistry.com.au/wp/2010/12/17/heads-will-roll/

By: Steven Opp

Steven Opp — Mon, 20 May 2013 18:32:51 +0000

Just read this post by Andrew Perriman: http://postost.net/2013/05/shema-important-understanding-one-god-one-lord

I’m curious about your take on what he says about Psalm 110. The Lord (Jesus) sitting at the right hand of the LORD (Yahweh) implies they’re not the same person. Thoughts?

By: Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:30:07 +0000

Matt Jepsen has some (possibly) related comments here:
http://moscowcoffeereview.com/carpecakem/2013/04/08/calling-on-a-host-of-angels/

By: Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:46:41 +0000

Another thought: the final test for Abraham was the offering of his son. Likewise, the final act of servanthood for Jesus would be, in this scenario, the incarnation, a microcosm of the whole.

By: Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:45:09 +0000

Interesting.
I’m pretty sure both Leithart and Jordan have written or said that Yahweh was Jesus, being the Word, but they would not take it this far.

By: Steven Opp

Steven Opp — Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:14:26 +0000

*The significance of Yahweh appearing after first creation account being that the name is connected with creation.

By: Steven Opp

Steven Opp — Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:13:09 +0000

Is the word Yahweh more closely related to Jesus than to the Father? The word doesn’t appear in Genesis until after the first creation account. I’ve heard preachers say that the Angel of Yahweh in the OT was Jesus, and I haven’t heard anyone disagree with that. Is it too much of a stretch to simply say Yahweh himself was Jesus? Don’t know my Hebrew grammar too well yet, but could “Angel of Yahweh” be translated “Angel Yahweh”?

By: Steven Opp

Steven Opp — Sun, 14 Apr 2013 00:11:40 +0000

Fascinating, keep going

By: Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:42:18 +0000

Here’s another one…

“I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you BEFORE THE WORLD EXISTED.”

By: Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 05:13:49 +0000

I’m not sure that the “maturing” of the Son would have affected the words He spoke as the Father’s representative. This is the picture we get in John’s Gospel, and also in Hebrews. The Son IS the infallible Word, yet He is a person, and a Mediator.

So this means we can’t claim that anything God says in the Old Testament was incorrect. It was perfect for the time and the situation, and the Father who initially spoke those Words knew everything from the beginning, when Jesus was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

The more I chew on it, I’ve found this idea sheds new light, or puts a wonderful new spin, on many texts. Imagine if the Son had no idea what the Father intended when He commanded the sacrifice of Isaac in perfect obedience? Was He the Angel sent to stop it? “Before Abraham was, I am.”