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Comment on Advance Notice by Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:09:46 +0000

Yep

Comment on Advance Notice by Dave

Dave — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:31:17 +0000

Please tell us that you’ll be recording this for sale afterwards…

Comment on The Whole Cherry Tree by Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:37:08 +0000

Hi Chris

Thanks. Nobody seems to want to understand baptism in terms of authority – both its source (Christ, not men) and the authority that it confers (to witness). To maintain this tradition, circumcision has to be misrepresented, and baptism has to be misrepresented. As I wrote, we can argue all millennium about how far the continuity should go, but because we’ve let loose the biblical definitions and explanations of these things, that “spectrum” just becomes the opinions of men. The terms of the debate have to be redefined. Might not look helpful but some basic Covenantal logic would see through the cloud of ink.

Comment on The Whole Cherry Tree by Chris W

Chris W — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:11:38 +0000

Hi Mike,

This article is not helpful for dialogue. Both sides of the baptism debate want to see continuity AND discontinuity between the Old and New Covenant. Sure, paedobaptists tend to see a little more continuity, but it’s all on a spectrum. Would an FV paedobaptist agree that they are just ripping things out of the Old Covenant unrefined by pentecost?

Chris

Comment on The Whole Cherry Tree by Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:49:51 +0000

John

Thanks for commenting.

Certainly, but the logic is sound. What is the source of the authority for paedobaptism? If it’s not “father Abraham,” and it’s not a personal relationship with Christ (as described in the New Testament, beginning with repentance), then all that’s left is “the will of man” (John 1:13).

I’m not picking on anybody. I’m just following the logic trail. I actually think this practice would be more logical if you want to hold onto those “household” verses as proof of paedobaptism.

Cheers,
Mike

Comment on The Whole Cherry Tree by John

John — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:16:56 +0000

But of course you know that Heads of Household meetings, though they may be found in some CREC churches, aren’t characteristics of most paedobaptistic churches. I dunno where the HoH thing came from, but it has nothing to do with Presbyterianism or, for that matter, the continental Reformed churches either. And many of the people you’d associate with “FV” (whatever that is) wouldn’t hold to HoH-type practices, including the father of the article you cited.

Comment on Living Menora by Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:29:46 +0000

I re-read it. It’s correct. They (like historicists, I believe) think it’s a prophecy of this entire age, and as history rolls on they stretch it to fit however they can – as long as we are in the last days, the Laodicean church. Now, there may be some truth in that, because history always moves in cycles, but the last days are only ever the last days of the old order. It seems to be 500 years, so we are at the end of the era begun in the Reformation, and looking at something new. Very exciting. But all of this is application, not interpretation.

Comment on Living Menora by Dave

Dave — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:24:13 +0000

So, the letters are a prophecy of future Church history, but a history of the “Firstfruits” Church, leading up to AD70, with only a brief glimpse of “the age to come” in chapter 20.

Did you mean to say “are Not a prophesy of future church history”? I was thinking that was a typo, but not sure

Comment on How I Learned to Be Very, Very Un-Cool by Ethan Russell

Ethan Russell — Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:34:14 +0000

Good words! It’s surprising how people react when we allow our un-coolness to show. Often times they are very receptive! As believers we are the un-clique.

Comment on Return of the Raven by Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Tue, 04 Jun 2013 00:05:18 +0000

It’s the member software. I have to “update” some posts for it to see them, even if they are technically public. This should be visible now. Thanks!