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		<title>By: Mike Bull</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Dave

2 Thess to me is undeniably imminent. The debate was about whether it was present, not whether it was near. So I think most or all of the references to the parousia concerned AD70. That was the next event on the agenda.

Same goes for erchomai. We&#039;re not going to get any definite answers from putting the Greek words under the microscope. The real answer is structural.

The AD70 judgment completed the first century &quot;Feasts&quot; pattern. The final judgment completes the same sort of structure, but one that covers the entire Bible. Revelation 20 is very clear that there are two resurrections. I believe neither is &quot;spiritual.&quot; Paul is one of those saints currently living and reigning with Christ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave</p>
<p>2 Thess to me is undeniably imminent. The debate was about whether it was present, not whether it was near. So I think most or all of the references to the parousia concerned AD70. That was the next event on the agenda.</p>
<p>Same goes for erchomai. We&#8217;re not going to get any definite answers from putting the Greek words under the microscope. The real answer is structural.</p>
<p>The AD70 judgment completed the first century &#8220;Feasts&#8221; pattern. The final judgment completes the same sort of structure, but one that covers the entire Bible. Revelation 20 is very clear that there are two resurrections. I believe neither is &#8220;spiritual.&#8221; Paul is one of those saints currently living and reigning with Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave (aka Kramden327)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave (aka Kramden327)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reply Mike. Didn&#039;t notice it until today. Would you say that all uses of &quot;Parousia&quot; refer to the AD70 coming of the Lord, or are some (like Paul&#039;s 2nd letter to the Thess) changing to the future event? Would Paul use the same phrase to speak of 2 very different events? Would you say &#039;erchomai&#039; is used interchangably with &#039;parousai&#039;? 

Thanks Mike.

Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply Mike. Didn&#8217;t notice it until today. Would you say that all uses of &#8220;Parousia&#8221; refer to the AD70 coming of the Lord, or are some (like Paul&#8217;s 2nd letter to the Thess) changing to the future event? Would Paul use the same phrase to speak of 2 very different events? Would you say &#8216;erchomai&#8217; is used interchangably with &#8216;parousai&#8217;? </p>
<p>Thanks Mike.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.bullartistry.com.au/wp/2009/12/17/the-end-is-not-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-2216</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Posted early last week, so should be any day now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted early last week, so should be any day now.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Finley</title>
		<link>http://www.bullartistry.com.au/wp/2009/12/17/the-end-is-not-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-2213</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis Finley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When should TC arrive, then?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When should TC arrive, then?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.bullartistry.com.au/wp/2009/12/17/the-end-is-not-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-2211</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Travis

A white horse begins the gospel process in the Land. Once the Land is conquered, a white horse again begins the process, but in the world (Rev 19). This time Jesus rides with the saints on white horses. It is Totus Christus.

What follows is a summary of events in the kingdom of Christ.

Satan&#039;s binding is the same as the &quot;binding&quot; of the wicked woman in Zechariah 5. He is put under a lid and exiled until the harvest comes to the full. When released, as the woman was (she is the harlot in Revelation), he is allowed by Jesus to fill up his sins. This brings on another resurrection, the second one.

Jordan commented somewhere that we don&#039;t have a huge commentary on the 1st century destruction of Jerusalem because we already have the one under Babylon. I think we also don&#039;t need a huge commentary on the end of the world because we have its little sister in the first century judgment.

The thousand years is not an arbitrary symbol. See:
http://www.bullartistry.com.au/wp/2009/11/07/for-a-thousand-years/

Also, the structure of the Revelation supports a future judgment. You will see this as you get through Totus Christus.

Thanks for the comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Travis</p>
<p>A white horse begins the gospel process in the Land. Once the Land is conquered, a white horse again begins the process, but in the world (Rev 19). This time Jesus rides with the saints on white horses. It is Totus Christus.</p>
<p>What follows is a summary of events in the kingdom of Christ.</p>
<p>Satan&#8217;s binding is the same as the &#8220;binding&#8221; of the wicked woman in Zechariah 5. He is put under a lid and exiled until the harvest comes to the full. When released, as the woman was (she is the harlot in Revelation), he is allowed by Jesus to fill up his sins. This brings on another resurrection, the second one.</p>
<p>Jordan commented somewhere that we don&#8217;t have a huge commentary on the 1st century destruction of Jerusalem because we already have the one under Babylon. I think we also don&#8217;t need a huge commentary on the end of the world because we have its little sister in the first century judgment.</p>
<p>The thousand years is not an arbitrary symbol. See:<br />
<a href="http://www.bullartistry.com.au/wp/2009/11/07/for-a-thousand-years/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bullartistry.com.au/wp/2009/11/07/for-a-thousand-years/</a></p>
<p>Also, the structure of the Revelation supports a future judgment. You will see this as you get through Totus Christus.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Finley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis Finley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike,
Is there any way to keep the millennium in the 1st C but still expect the close of the New Age?  I just don&#039;t see a good reason to put the Battle of the Amalekites (Rev 20) in the future for us.  It seems that all of Rev is 1st C except for the 1000yrs and that hermeneutic just don&#039;t jive with me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
Is there any way to keep the millennium in the 1st C but still expect the close of the New Age?  I just don&#8217;t see a good reason to put the Battle of the Amalekites (Rev 20) in the future for us.  It seems that all of Rev is 1st C except for the 1000yrs and that hermeneutic just don&#8217;t jive with me.</p>
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